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 Post subject: Oamenii liberi nu muncesc
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:52 am 
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florin baci wrote:
Sunt convins ca fiecare are cate o interpretare semantica pt tot felul de termeni in functie de experientele lui, insa nu sunt convins de explicatia ta incat sa-mi schimb parerea, dar as dori ca aceste interpretari sa aiba loc undeva in categoria "discutii generale" sau "offtopic". Si inca un lucru, cand sunt exprimate astfel de interpretari as prefera sa nu mi se adreseze ca si cum acestea ar avea valoare absoluta!

Scriu aici, in continuarea topicului viewtopic.php?f=2&t=389

As fi preferat sa scriu acolo, nu imi place "impartirea pe materii", suntem "Homo Sapiens", daca avem o discutie - putem zice orice vrem. Cine ne pedepseste, aici ? Nu suntem la scoala.

Ok, eu spun: "oamenii liberi nu muncesc", mai pe larg am scris aici:
viewtopic.php?p=917#p917
si aici:
http://paimei02.blogspot.com/2011/06/ce ... liber.html

O spun foarte hotarat, categoric, final. Pentru mine e clara treaba asta, e "absoluta". Florin Baci, scuze daca te supara asta, dar nu vad motivul de suparare. Eu nu pot sa iti spun ce sa crezi chiar daca strig tare ce cred eu. Altfel nu as mai discuta. Daca spun "asa e", nu inseamna ca spun "vei crede ce spun eu". De parca as putea sa-ti controlez gandurile, sa fiu sigur ca m-ai crezut.

Poti sa iti spui si tu parerea categorica, nu vad de ce m-as supara eu atunci.

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 Post subject: Re: Oamenii liberi nu muncesc
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:31 pm 
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Atunci, în loc de „a munci” ai spune mai degrabă „a te juca”?


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 Post subject: Re: Oamenii liberi nu muncesc
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:38 pm 
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Da
http://www.primitivism.com/leviathan.htm
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But none of them ever worked. And everyone knows it. The armored Christians who later "discovered" these communities knew that these people did no work, and this knowledge grated on Christian nerves, it rankled, it caused cadavers to peep out. The Christians spoke of women who did "lurid dances" in their fields instead of confining themselves to chores; they said hunters did a lot of devilish "hocus pocus" before actually drawing the bowstring.

These Christians, early time-and-motion engineers, couldn't tell when play ended and work began. Long familiar with the chores of zeks, the Christians were repelled by the lurid and devilish heathen who pretended that the Curse of Labor had not fallen on them. The Christians put a quick end to the "hocus pocus" and the dances, and saw to it that none could fail to distinguish work from play.

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 Post subject: Re: Oamenii liberi nu muncesc
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:29 pm 
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Sa nu ma injurati pentru ca dezgrop topicul, dar titlul mi-a amintit de un prieten de-al meu care, exasperat de unele refuzuri d'ale mele bazate pe motivatia "nu pot, caci muncesc" mi-a spus-o intr-o zi franc "daca muncesti toata ziua, cand mai ai timp de facut bani?".
Multa vreme nu am inteles dedesuptul acestei intrebari, dar vreo doi ani mai tarziu am plecat pe picioarele mele. Nu mai "muncesc" ca si salariat, nu mai muncesc pentru angajator, acum "muncesc" pentru clienti.


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 Post subject: Re: Oamenii liberi nu muncesc
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:26 pm 
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da, eu inca sunt la capitolul munca, cred ca-mi mai ia un pic pana ma desprind, huuh :ugeek:

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